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Deeper’n’Ever pie for dinner.

Heck yeah you know you want some.


*Or, in molespeak, Moi Koind o' Poi.

Date: 2012-01-17 05:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] van.livejournal.com
. . . there appears to be cheese, mushrooms and . . . strawberries within that pie. I am abstaining until I know the full contents.

Date: 2012-01-17 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
Not berries! Beets! And potatoes and carrots. Quite tasty.

Date: 2012-01-17 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agenttrojie.livejournal.com
Turnip and 'tater and beetroot poi?

Date: 2012-01-17 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
Hurr, yurr! No turnips, but yeah, taters and beetroots. And carrots and mushrooms, and cheese, too!

Date: 2012-01-17 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agenttrojie.livejournal.com
Boi okey marm, soun's wunnerful!

Date: 2012-01-17 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
Burr aye, et were! Thankee koindly!

Yes, I edited the Molespeak because I did it wrong. WHAT??
Edited Date: 2012-01-17 06:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-17 06:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nobleplatypus
Yes. Yes, I do.

Date: 2012-01-17 02:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] renshai.livejournal.com
Oh man, it looks like everything my young heart dreamed of. (well, except the beets, but I guess allowances must be made)

(the food in those books, man - I don't even like shrimp, but hotroot soup sounded like the best thing ever.)

Date: 2012-01-17 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com
I'm with you on this. Not a big fan of Beets, but otherwise, I'm there.

And food is often one of my favorite things about Fantasy stories. So many of them feature heavily exactly the kind of good solid down to earth food I love so much.

Date: 2012-01-17 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
I don't understand you people. The beets are a HIGHLIGHT, by god!

In the Redwall cookbook, which has a very different recipe for Deeper'n'Ever Pie, Jacques says in the introduction that as a kid during World War II, he had enough food but it wasn't an overabundance and it wasn't really tasty. So he wound up reading cookbooks longingly and always combed through the stories he read for food mentions, and always made sure to mention food in his stories. And man, was he good at it. THE FOOD PORN OH GOD.

Date: 2012-01-18 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com
Thinking about it some more, I might be OK with the Beets in something like this. I've only ever had Beets in Borscht or just on their own, pickled or fresh. In those contexts, they're just too much.

But if they were one of many ingredients, it would probably work better.

Date: 2012-01-17 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acrossthelake.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, Chris has a thing about beets thanks to the time he made a blended drink out of beets, cat food, milk and spaghetti plus a bunch of booze. Otherwise I would dig out the recipe you sent me and make this tonight. It looks delicious.

And yes, I'm pretty sure that Brian Jaques is about 20% responsible for my culinary school experience.

Date: 2012-01-19 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwalla.livejournal.com
For some reason, I don't think the beets were the main problem with that concoction.

Date: 2012-01-17 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evilcresyluna.livejournal.com
I'll take some! I love beets and pretty much all root vegetables... vegetables, possibly, I've yet to run into any I don't like. And joining in the chorus of the Redwall food description drooling, it is probably all his fault for the vegetarianism anyway.

And might I say what a lovely crust you have there too!

Date: 2012-01-17 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwalla.livejournal.com
I always imagined it as pretty much root vegetable pot pie. As much as I like cheese, I never thought of it as an ingredient of Deeper 'n Ever Pie. Adding other root vegetables seems legit, but cheese just seems wrong to me. Plus, how would they get the milk?* Looks tasty though.

Every once in a while I ponder trying to make my own stab at it. Probably season it with some leeks & lovage. I'd add carrots (maybe brown them first, because caramlized carrots are the yum), probably mushrooms, maybe some celeriac.... I'd probably get soem input from my mom, since she's the more experienced cook (I'm not a bad cook, but I've only ever worked from recipes and never put together my own, aside from cocktails).

*Does that count as fridge logic?

Date: 2012-01-18 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com
Plus, how would they get the milk?*

I ran into some serious Fridge Horror in a similar vein on Christmas. I was reading through one of the family classic Christmas stories. It's called Grey Rabbit's Christmas, and it's another anthropomorphized talking animal story. And something jumped out at me that no one else in the family had noticed in over 60 years of this book being read every Christmas for over 60 years: At one point, one character gives another a pair of fur gloves for Christmas. Where did that fur come from?

Date: 2012-01-18 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com
Yeah, that was the only thing we could think of, was that it was maybe shed or plucked fur. The picture looked like fur-lined leather gloves, though.

There was also a use of the phrase "let the cat out of the bag" which kind of implies that they eat Pork as well.

Date: 2012-01-18 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormteller.livejournal.com
I'm more worried that a rabbit needs fur gloves. Doesn't it sort of have those already?

Date: 2012-01-18 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com
It was actually a Squirrel who got the gloves, but yeah, we wondered a bit about that, too.

Date: 2012-01-18 05:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
I know he used a milk substitute but I wasn't sure about cheese. I always figured I was cheating there because hell with it I LIKE cheese--and then I found the Redwall Cookbook and saw that the official recipe, which was way different from this one in a lot of ways, actually called for cheese. I am confused.

I boil carrots, potatoes, and beets first, and saute some mushrooms and onions. Those all get mixed with grated cheese, olive oil, salt, pepper, and mustard powder as the filling. (I also make sure the vegetables are still big and chunky, since I like 'em that way, but I suppose you could mush them up if you'd rather ...)

When I wind up freestyle cooking I usually wind up looking at several recipes for something and kind of picking and choosing. Helps to have something to work with.

Date: 2012-01-18 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadharonon.livejournal.com
He had all kinds of loving descriptions of cheese in the books, so yeah. Fridge logic.

Date: 2012-01-19 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwalla.livejournal.com
I guess it'd have to be larder logic, since they didn't have refrigeration.

Date: 2012-01-18 12:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michellerz.livejournal.com
That looks delectable...

Date: 2012-01-18 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] childthursday.livejournal.com
The crust on this pie is fantastic. I've never heard of making a pie with starches inside the crust (more often open-topped) but this looks tasty. Did you cook the beets and stuff first?

Date: 2012-01-18 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
*grin* It's Pillsbury. Brushed with egg, but yeah.

Yeah, I cook the stuff first ... boiled the root vegetables and sauteed the mushrooms and onions. Otherwise the pie comes out kind of soggy.

Date: 2012-01-18 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadharonon.livejournal.com
Oi do loike poi.

Dang, I need to make this someday.

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