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Okay, so The Desolation of Smaug was mostly unnecessary, and unlike the LotR movies it made the story LESS cohesive than its source material, but it was pretty darn fun.

Especially Smaug. Most of the changes from the book, while understandable from a cinematic adaptation's point of view, made it work LESS well--but I admit I like the moment when Bilbo winds up face-to-face with Smaug. You really get a moment of "Damn, this hobbit is in over his head and he is terrified and he will ROCK IT ANYWAY." And I know Smaug really gets more screen time than he does in the book, but god dammit they had a big CGI DRAGON and they were gonna USE it.

Mostly it was really entertaining to see how much fun Peter Jackson and team were having. I squeaked and giggled at all their nods to the Middle Earth lore. And even the super dumb moments were usually so awesome that it didn't matter that they were, in fact, super dumb.* (The audience had the funniest reaction to the movie's little nod to Legolas and Gimli's future friendship. It was this I See What You Did There groan followed by a laugh at our own response.)

Although I did want to hang out with the spiders for longer. I wanted Bilbo's moment of kickassery to last. And anyway I was looking forward to those spiders, dangit.


*And a couple that they actually managed to NOT make super dumb despite all probabilities--for example, Kili falling in love with an Elf (and the Elf possibly falling in love back) was actually rather sweet and well-played. And probably not going to end well, if we're gonna follow the book.

Date: 2013-12-14 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prodigal.livejournal.com
Yeah, given my complete lack of memory of Tauriel from the books, I'm expecting that she's going to be killed during the Battle of Five Armies, and Kili and Legolas will bond over manly tears shed over her.

Date: 2013-12-14 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
Well, uh, given Kili's fate in The Hobbit, Legolas might just have to wait till he meets up with Gimli for the true Elf/Dwarf love story to launch, there ...

(My money's on some Field of Battle variant on "dying in each other's arms."0
Edited Date: 2013-12-14 07:46 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-14 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com
I am so not looking forward to the spiders. I'm going to see it in the theatre, because it's going to be worth it despite them, but there are going to be bits I'm not watching, because I do want to be able to sleep again.

Date: 2013-12-15 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
They're pretty ... spidery, yes. And they do have a violence fight, which makes them even more squashy, so--yeah, might wanna close your eyes.

Date: 2013-12-15 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormteller.livejournal.com
Just saw it.

My main complaint was Tauriel. Every scene she was in I was mainly thinking, "Why are you here? You serve no purpose. Go away."

Bummer about the spiders, though. Bilbo's messing with them was his crowning moment in the book.

I had no complaints about his session with Smaug, though, except that they left out some of my favourite bits ("then I was but young and tender. Now I am old and strong, strong, STRONG, Thief in the Shadows!") nor with the extended Dwarves vs. Dragon scene, since the film made the Dwarves a lot more, er, heroic, which is fair enough.

Date: 2013-12-15 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
To be honest, Tauriel didn't bother me--she was obviously an attempt to shoehorn in SOME kind of female, but the attempt to do so strikes me as a nice gesture, and she was only a little more out of place than Legolas.

Really, I had no complaints about the rest of it, either--just a general acknowledgement that yes, the book was better and more Bilbo-centric (even though I do give props to the Dwarves actually, y'know, DOING something). And Smaug was pretty dang awesome.

Date: 2013-12-16 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwalla.livejournal.com
I haven't seen it yet but...

http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/just-got-back-from-hobbit-419615812

And a prediction for the next movie:

http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/hobbit-3-the-legolas-chronicles-first-look-419956676

EDIT: Boy, deviantArt embedding didn't work at ALL.
Edited Date: 2013-12-16 07:09 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-12-16 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
BWAHAHA Girion the Cross-Eyed.

I love how they gave him all those ridiculous stunts in the LotR movies after they realized that he does next to NOTHING in the books except hang out with Gimli and spout poetry.

There are some drawbacks to HD, too. He's got his blue-eye contacts in again for this movie, and dangit they're wonky. Which just makes his aim ALL THE MORE IMPRESSIVE, right?

Date: 2013-12-17 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwalla.livejournal.com
I suspect Peter Jackson has fond memories of a particularly kick-ass elf player character in his teenage D&D sessions.

(The dwarf-tossing bit at Helm's Deep has all the markings of something that happened in a game session fueled by Cheetos and Mountain Dew at 2 AM when everybody was getting a little loopy)

Date: 2013-12-16 11:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halkyone.livejournal.com
How much does Thranduil remind you of Jareth the Goblin King, though.

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