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I have finally read through the entire Silmarillion.

Good GOD, that was boring.

It shouldn't be. There was a goddamn fistfight between the Dark Lord and a giant light-eating darkness-spinning spider, which ended when the Dark Lord tag-teamed 75 Balrogs with their flaming whips and swords to drive the monster off. That should be interesting to read. But Tolkien's need to be all high saga narrative style whenever he's writing about Elves makes it mind-numbing.*

Also, his total Mary-Sueing of the entire species of Elves still bugs me. He keeps insisting that they're the fairest and wisest and noblest of races and they could totally beat you at everything and they're the best times infinity, and yet the entire Silmarillion consists of them bashing each other with swords because they have FEELINGS. And they seem to be rather forgetful. Rather than improving their skills, they made all the nicest stuff right at the beginning of time, and then it all got destroyed and they forgot how they did it and so they just sat around making less-awesome things and stabbing each other with complexly-named swords. Tolkien's contention that The Old Ways Are The Best Ways leaves his world unnervingly stagnant.

I do like to entertain myself, though, with the idea that Elves (or at least some of them) are color-blind. This is my explanation for their obsession with white and grey and silver. It's a stupid thing to complain about, but I really do get bugged with the lack of color in their world, so it's fun to think that all the soft grey EVERYTHING is actually riotously colorful. And yes, I know I am full of shit, but dammit I had to do something to get through this thing.

It makes me wonder why the hell The Hobbit is one of my favorite books, when The Silmarillion bores the hell out of me and LotR annoys me with its terrible dialogue, incessant musical numbers, and long bookends of hobbit fuck-aroundery. Maybe Tolkien's just a better writer when he gives up trying to sound magnificent. Or maybe the visions in his head are far cooler than the words he can put to them. But they are impressive visions, so even after all my ranting, I gotta give it to him--the guy's imagination had STYLE.


*Makes me want to reread David Eddings' books, because of his contrasts between the High Fancy Narrative Style and What Our Heroes Really Said--the latter of which is a lot less forsoothy and a lot more grumbly.

Date: 2013-02-13 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
Yeah, I love that Eddings's characters are archetypes and don't really know how they feel about it. And how grumpy they get at times because the Purpose of the Universe has been NAGGING them to save the world for CENTURIES and it's getting old.

I thought it was interesting that he was so careful about which variables he changed--in the Belgariad our hero was what he called the Dumb Hero--or, at least, the innocent hero with no idea what was going on in the world. In the Elenium you had a similar quest for a Magic Thingamajig (his words, not mine), but he opted for a seasoned and world-weary hero to be the one on the quest. It's a fun difference.

I must have just skimmed through LotR when I read it as a kid, because this time around I'm just overcome with how it drags. I had forgotten that the first half of Fellowship consists entirely of fucking around and musical numbers. (I had also forgotten that, while I admire his conlanging dedication, it's rather weird to have characters stop the action dead to tell their friends that the mountain to your left, which Men now know as Mount Intheway, or Hocketyblarg in the ancient tongue, is called by the Elves Ithilwithil or sometimes Wiggitywack, but the dwarves call it Glockendurm unless it's Tuesday and then they use the term Khar-daznog which means "Dude, that's a mountain over there and it's Tuesday" and on and on ...) He seems to know where he's going in The Hobbit. Not so much LotR.

Date: 2013-02-14 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwalla.livejournal.com
Well, he did basically write LOTR for two reasons: he needed an outlet/excuse for his conlanging, and his editor wouldn't stop nagging him for a sequel to The Hobbit. ;)

Date: 2013-02-14 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com
True. He thought he was almost done when he got to Moria, and there were quite a few drafts of early chapters where Frodo was named Bingo, which ... yeah, it wouldn't have been quite the same as an epic. So I would say that the reason it felt like he wasn't sure where he was going was that he really WASN'T. But it could've used an editor.

As for the conlang show-off stuff, I can't fault him for being excited, but in order to keep a good story flowing I think his editors should've relegated more to the appendices.

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