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bloodyrosemccoy ([personal profile] bloodyrosemccoy) wrote2012-12-10 09:53 am
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Territorial Hobbitses

I really loved the Lord of the Rings movies--I even think some of the character arcs were better in them--but I can totally understand Christopher Tolkien's issues with them. If I'd spent my entire life in my dad's world and all sorts of other people started barging into it and crashing around, I'd be a bit territorial, too.

This also made me realize that I am far more worried about The Hobbit than I was about LotR, because I am far more invested in Bilbo as a character. He's a brilliant character, possibly the most relatable hero I've ever come across. And he's very hard to get right--I adored the hell out of There and Back Again, Pat Murphy's awesomely insane space opera remix of The Hobbit, but Bailey Beldon is no Bilbo. And I don't know if Martin Freeman could be, either--though if there were somebody I'd want to play him, Freeman's at the top of the list. Right under a magically age-reduced Sir Ian Holm, really. But even with Freeman playing him, it's a question of whether it'll work. We'll just have to see.
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[personal profile] shadesofmauve 2012-12-13 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
The 'comic relief' bit that I remember most clearly from the Hobbit is also a bit of holy-shit-bad-ass -- the whole bit with the juggling of plates while making up a song about said juggling and how it impacts on poor Bilbo's sensibilities.

(Okay, Maybe I'm the only one who sees that as pure skill, but hey, can YOU juggle crockery and ad lib rhyming verse at the same time?)

From the little bit of that scene included in the trailer, I'm hopeful that it stays that Bilbo is the butt of that joke, not the dwarves.

I expect/hope that because there are so many dwarves they'll use comic relief vs. serious to differentiate *between* then, and humor will become a personality trait, rather than a racial one. If so, it could end up being a pretty good thing.

[identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com 2012-12-13 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, if that's done with the Dwarves being badasses while Bilbo freaks out, it's awesome. If it's done as "bumbling, but mysteriously manage not to break anything", it's frustrating.

It could be well done. I just don't have faith that it will be. Tho Sofish_Sasha's comment above gives me more hope.

And that last is also a good point. If it's used to show that (for instance) Fili and Kili are still kind of young and goof off some times, and Bombur takes a few hits about being lazy, that wouldn't bother me so much.
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[personal profile] shadesofmauve 2012-12-13 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
I'm hopeful that your last scenario will be the case, if only because writing it any other way would honestly be kind of *hard*. They need variety in personality or the movie would be super dull.

[identity profile] sofish-sasha.livejournal.com 2012-12-13 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
The crockery juggling was awesome. :D

[identity profile] westrider.livejournal.com 2012-12-13 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Excellent to hear! This discussion has slowly been shifting me to "guardedly optimistic" :)

[identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com 2012-12-13 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm with you. Bombur is TOTALLY comic relief in the book, but it looks like Thorin is going to be pretty badass, so hopefull this is just showing the many Dwarf personalities.

I was always pretty impressed with the crockery-juggling, too. That takes some skill.