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bloodyrosemccoy ([personal profile] bloodyrosemccoy) wrote2008-11-19 02:49 pm

Review From The Linguist

So I finished Ursula K. LeGuin’s The Left Hand Of Darkness yesterday, and hey—let’s hear it for thoughtful science fiction!

I was most impressed at the way she incorporated her worldbuilding into the story—she had a good focus on a smallish area on one planet, and explored it in great depth. I liked the detail, the believability, the different psychology (often “different culture” has people still thinking the same, with material differences—basically the author puts a funny hat on a character and says, “Different culture!”), and the feeling that this was a whole world we were seeing was good. She does get pompous about it at times—I’m always suspicious of a book that treats itself as such SRS BZNS.

Her design principles for this world seemed, to me, mostly subtractive, like she was taking away more than adding. The building seems minimalist in a way. Consider:

  • Small inhabitable area makes for less of a spread of humanity, thus more communication.
  • The removal of differing genders, while it does add a few things to the culture we don’t have, seems to mostly be about removing an extra layer of cultural meaning—she postulates that sex taboos wouldn’t exist, notes that rape is sort of impossible with their particular biological setup, sexism doesn’t exist (see? Subtraction isn’t always bad!), and even goes out on a limb and suggests that war on this planet doesn’t exist on a large scale because they lack a concept of duality.
  • Technology is overall about 20th-Century level, with a few things taken away (TV, flight)
  • Fewer species on the planet to inspire stories and culture—off the top of my head I remember there being no large herd animals, no birds (or anything that flies—which the main character figures is why they’ve never invented airplanes), no insects.

On the one hand, I understand that it’s sort of ridiculous to say that more stuff = more culture, like saying Americans have “more” culture than the !Kung.  But the portrait we get in this book seems cumulatively subtractive, even with the concepts she does add (shifgrethor, Foretelling, the ins and outs of mating, the psychology). The stark environment around them bleeds into the starkness of the cultures themselves—but then, that might be partially because it’s impossible to really paint the nuances of a culture.

I also give her props for her language-building for two reasons:

  1. She’s actually given it some thought, has differences in the two languages we see in the story, and has sound systems that I’m not sure about but looks at least sorta cohesive.
  2. This is hands-down the ugliest language system I have ever seen.

She even beat out Tolkien* and Láadan in that latter category, far and away. It’s spectacularly ugly, cumulatively ugly, ugly piled on ugly.  The words were so awful—so nasty—that I gave serious thought to stopping the book just to get the hell away from having to read names and words like “Therem Harth rem ir Estraven,” “Gethen,” “kemmer,” “shifgrethor” (pardon me, I just gagged), “Harhahad,” “Ockre,”*** “Handdara,” “nusuth,” “Ehrenrang,” “kyorremy,” “Karhide.” Was she trying for ugly as the hind-end of a dog? Or is this just one of my own aesthetic sensibilities?

Despite the language, though, I kept going, and I’m glad I did.  At least now I can say I've read it.

*You can all kill me now.  If it makes you feel better, I am only comparing these two on the plane of sheer ugliness—Láadan can't touch Tolkien's language families in any other way.**

**And for those of you who may possibly like Láadan, let me just state that everybody has their own opinion, and yours is wrong.

***This one worries me. Why is there a “ck” blend—how is it different from “c” or “k”?  I’m much less suspicious of the double letters, and she may be able to make a case for her haphazard-looking use of “y,” but “ck”?  Really?


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[identity profile] nixve.livejournal.com 2008-11-19 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not just you. I adore Left Hand of Darkness but I also admit its flaws. And OMG, the words and names just trip me up all over the place. bleh.

[identity profile] childthursday.livejournal.com 2008-11-19 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey! If you could figure out a way to come to Chicago for a week, I could put you up in my apartment and have you lecture my students on how language affects culture and therefore gender. It would be awesome. I might even be able to get you a $50 stipend for it.

[identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com 2008-11-19 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually saw a theatrical version of this and it was really neat.

[identity profile] gwalla.livejournal.com 2008-11-19 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's just LeGuin's aesthetics at work. A lot of the names in Earthsea are similar.

A "ck" cluster is possible if they represent different sounds. Like if "c" is palatal and "k" is velar. I'd think there'd be a strong tendency towards assimilation either way though.

EDITOR HAT ON: You're missing the double asterisk in the body text (I assume it's meant to come after "Láadan"). Also, I think you meant "for that matter", not "latter".

Also, you forgot to link Planet of Hats. >;D

[identity profile] kadharonon.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Have you read The Dispossessed yet? I was able to get into reading that one when I wasn't able to get past the first chapter or so of The Left Hand of Darkness, which may have partially been due to being required to read The Dispossessed for a class...

Another of hers I enjoyed was The Lathe of Heaven. Turtle aliens!

...and now I'm off on a tangent and am wondering why I didn't bring Lilith's Brood (Octavia Butler, and it's three books in one, and tentacle babies!) and my other Spec Fic books along to school, because some of them were really good reading and I kind of want them right now... And I want my Cherryh, dammit. I didn't realized I'd want to read hard sci fi. I thought I'd want fluff, like Pratchett and my very large collection of J Fantasy. But no, I want to watch fluff movies and read hard sci fi.

[identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
LeGuin's aesthetics may put me off to ever reading Earthsea. Seriously, that was a trial for me.

Yes, I realize that may be the difference in c and k, but I don't KNOW, and that troubles me!

Now I'm curious: What do you think of those names?

*confiscates your editor's hat*

"For that latter" is awkward, I admit, but it refers to the latter of the two reasons I gave. I will put the word "reason" in there if it helps.

Also, the double asterisk is right there at the end of the first footnote. THAT'S RIGHT, BITCH, MY FOOTNOTES HAVE FOOTNOTES.

[identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Although you are correct; I did forget to link to Planet of Hats. It's actually an anthropology term--I didn't know it'd made it to Tropedom.
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[personal profile] shadesofmauve 2008-11-20 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Don't let the names put you off Earthsea - because there are far fewer ideas, there are far fewer new words. Names, very little else. I wouldn't want to hazard whether you'd find 'em ugly or not (I dislike most of the Left Hand of Darkness you mentioned, but find Tolkien's languages beautiful), but for me, they stuck out much less than in LHoD.

You might be a bit put off by the simplicity of it, especially the first one. I found they gained in interest and power substantially as I kept reading (books three and four were my favorites).
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[personal profile] shadesofmauve 2008-11-20 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
I find quite a bit of the 'taking herself very seriously' in that era of Le Guin's writing. I'm awed by them, but I don't love to read two in a row.

She's not too-entirely-deep-n-serious in person though. She's a pretty cool lady! Oddly enough, for someone who manages to show so much philosophy/message in her books, she really doesn't like the Academic drive to find THE message in a story.

I really highly recommend Changing Planes, which was written in the last five years (I think), and is...well, not short stories, but a group of slightly-tied-together vignettes of very different worlds. It's got the deep ideas and a lovely touch of lightness and occasional humor.

[identity profile] cwoolard.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 07:06 am (UTC)(link)

>“shifgrethor” (pardon me, I just gagged)

Somehow, my weird half-dyslexia always tried to parse that as "shitfucker".
Given the nature of Gethenian politics, that might not be too far off the mark.

[identity profile] gwalla.livejournal.com 2008-11-20 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they sound vaguely Germanic.

Skellington1 is right, there's a lot less of it in Earthsea. It mainly shows up in people's True Names, which are usually kept secret because otherwise people can have power over you.

Enjoyed the first one. Couldn't make it through the second. Didn't try the third. Didn't know there was a fourth.

Argh, missed those asterisks!

[identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, that would be. I'd like to see how they interpret Gethenians ...

[identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I wish. We had a whole class on that at the UO. Fascinating stuff. But I don't know if it's possible ...

I can give you the name of the professor who taught the class, though. She may be able to help you with that.

[identity profile] padparadscha.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't. I'll look into it. I'm dying to read Octavia Butler.

On an only slightly related note, I can't for the life of me read the last Chanur book, because I absolutely can't stand Hilfy. I just want to deck her whenever she shows up. Curses!

[identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It was about 8 years ago and mostly what I remember is how they staged the ice-crossing sequence. They had the actors in those slippery socks sliding side to side on those fitness-slider things so it looked like they were skiing

[identity profile] childthursday.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
That would be great. I wish I could offer you travel expenses, but you'd need a Ph.D. and a Nobel Prize before the cheapskates would spring for it.

[identity profile] queenlyzard.livejournal.com 2008-11-26 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
She really does have a knock for thoughtful world-building. I highly recommend her YA trilogy starting with "Gifts". Never really thought about the languages she uses, although I do recall the Earthsea books having too damn many made-up words in them :)

[identity profile] queenlyzard.livejournal.com 2008-11-26 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
I highly second that recommendation! Also, have you read her recent YA trilogy? Much lighter than her earlier work, which does have that "too serious" tone to it at times. To be honest, I'm not sure I've even read "Left Hand of Darkness"... or is it "Dispossessed" that I never got around to? I can't remember. Loved "Lathe of Heaven," though.